I need to speak out regarding the 'Ox gored - Cow poked' comment on the Chatlist from Brian Terkowski on October 16. Recall the discussion:
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Kish said:
"Democrats who voted AGAINST the Civil Rights Act of 1964..."
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Tarkowski said:
"The
Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed by majority votes of both parties.
The “Nay” votes came from a majority of Democratic (93%-95%) and all
Republicans (100%) of Southern legislators. Southern being defined as
the 11 states of the Confederacy.
When you mis-state something as basic as this, it calls into question all of your other assertions.
While I was online I Googled “useful idiot”. Have you?"
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So, lets look at the numbers and draw our own conclusions.
First, the actual votes in the House pf Representatives were:
For passage - 153 democrats (62% of democrats), 136 republicans (80% of republicans)
Against passage - 91 democrats (38% of democrats), 35 republicans (20% of republicans)
From North Carolina -
For passage: none.
Against passage: Bonner [D], Fountain [D], Henderson [D], Cooley [D],
Scott [D], Kornegay [D], Lennon [D], Whitener [D], Taylor [D], Broyhill
[R], Jonas [R]; 9 democrats, 2 republicans against the Civil Rights Act.
Second, the actual votes in the Senate were:
For passage - 46 democrats (69% of democrats), 27 republicans (82% of republicans)
Against passage - 21 democrats (31% of democrats), 6 republicans (18% of republicans)
From North Carolina -
For passage: none
Against passage: Ervin [D], Jordan [D]; both democrats voted against the Civil Rights Act.
Kish
and Tarkowski appear to agree on the facts about the Civil Rights Act
of 1964. Tarkowski seems to want us to disregard everything Kish said by
attacking one of Kish's statements.
Perhaps Tarkowski's useful idiots are those who blindly follow the leadership of either Party without checking the facts.
All my posts are on my blog at https://countrylivingpolitics.blogspot.com.
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Senate vote: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1964/s409
House vote: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1964/h182
Monday, October 16, 2017
Jordan Lake Drinking Water
A friend of mine mentioned to me that Chatham County does not have a representative for Jordan Lake water quality.
I did some research and found it is true. These are the reps to the Jordan Lake Nutrient Scientific Advisory Board: Cary, Chapel Hill, Durham, Elon/Gibsonville/Graham/Mebane, Greensboro, NCSU, NC DOT, and a non-voting member of the Falls Lake watershed.
That is really disappointing. From the online documents I found, Chatham County gets 6 million gallons of water per day from Jordan Lake. But the people who drink that water and the County where the Lake resides have no voting representative on the Advisory Board. Does this make sense?
The Legislature adopted the Jordan Lake Rules in 2009 that were an attempt to clean up pollution going into the lake. Towns upstream of the Lake and in the Triangle complained about the cost of treating their water so it would not pollute the lake, and so the Legislature has never fully implemented the rules. We, the Chatham County residents who drink the water and reside by the lake, are impacted by government lack of action and lack of representation.
This is not a Democrat or a Republican issue. Both parties have plenty of blame to share when it comes to Jordan Lake pollution. Under Democrat control, the Legislature did not fully implement the rules. Under Republican control, the Legislature has tried silly ideas such as the Solar-Bee experiment, and recently explored using chemicals in the lake to treat algae. It is not suprising that the chemical lobbyist supporting chemical treatment was a former legislator, Harold Brubaker [R-Randolph County]. Gladys Robinson [D-Guilford] has complained that treating water going into Jordan Lake 'does nothing for our teachers'. Rick Gunn [R-Alamance/Randolph] sponsored S515, the Jordan Lake non-quality act that would permanently put the Jordan Lake Rules on hold. Upon reviewing the legislative actions of our own representatives, Senator Valerie Foushee [D] and Representative Robert Reives [D] I found that neither has introduced any legislation to clean up Jordan Lake.
From 1993 to 2013 the Governor and Legislature was solidly Democrat, from 2013 until now the legislature has been solidly Republican. Blame them both.
Elections are coming up in 2018. Know the facts, and understand what is important to you. Vote accordingly, and do not blindly follow a party line vote.
Jordan Lake Rules:
http://portal.ncdenr.org/c/document_library/get_file?uuid=fd6c684b-2c8e-4617-a890-551ad77cd680&groupId=235275
Current water allocations:
https://deq.nc.gov/about/divisions/water-resources/planning/basin-planning/map-page/cape-fear-river-basin-landing/jordan-lake-water-supply-allocation/jordan-lake-water-supply-allocation-current-allocations
Nutrient Scientific Advisory Board:
https://deq.nc.gov/about/divisions/water-resources/planning/nonpoint-source-management/nutrient-scientific-advisory-board
S515:
http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2013/Bills/Senate/PDF/S515v5.pdf
Harold Brubaker:
http://www.ncpolicywatch.com/2017/05/25/former-house-speaker-tried-strong-arm-deq-chemicals-jordan-lake/
Gladys Robinson:
http://www.wral.com/the-price-of-protection-who-should-pay-to-clean-jordan-lake-/12546867/
Robert Reives legislation: http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/members/reports/introducedBills.pl?nUserID=684&Chamber=H
Valerie Foushee legislation: http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/members/reports/introducedBills.pl?nUserID=383&Chamber=S
I did some research and found it is true. These are the reps to the Jordan Lake Nutrient Scientific Advisory Board: Cary, Chapel Hill, Durham, Elon/Gibsonville/Graham/Mebane, Greensboro, NCSU, NC DOT, and a non-voting member of the Falls Lake watershed.
That is really disappointing. From the online documents I found, Chatham County gets 6 million gallons of water per day from Jordan Lake. But the people who drink that water and the County where the Lake resides have no voting representative on the Advisory Board. Does this make sense?
The Legislature adopted the Jordan Lake Rules in 2009 that were an attempt to clean up pollution going into the lake. Towns upstream of the Lake and in the Triangle complained about the cost of treating their water so it would not pollute the lake, and so the Legislature has never fully implemented the rules. We, the Chatham County residents who drink the water and reside by the lake, are impacted by government lack of action and lack of representation.
This is not a Democrat or a Republican issue. Both parties have plenty of blame to share when it comes to Jordan Lake pollution. Under Democrat control, the Legislature did not fully implement the rules. Under Republican control, the Legislature has tried silly ideas such as the Solar-Bee experiment, and recently explored using chemicals in the lake to treat algae. It is not suprising that the chemical lobbyist supporting chemical treatment was a former legislator, Harold Brubaker [R-Randolph County]. Gladys Robinson [D-Guilford] has complained that treating water going into Jordan Lake 'does nothing for our teachers'. Rick Gunn [R-Alamance/Randolph] sponsored S515, the Jordan Lake non-quality act that would permanently put the Jordan Lake Rules on hold. Upon reviewing the legislative actions of our own representatives, Senator Valerie Foushee [D] and Representative Robert Reives [D] I found that neither has introduced any legislation to clean up Jordan Lake.
From 1993 to 2013 the Governor and Legislature was solidly Democrat, from 2013 until now the legislature has been solidly Republican. Blame them both.
Elections are coming up in 2018. Know the facts, and understand what is important to you. Vote accordingly, and do not blindly follow a party line vote.
Jordan Lake Rules:
http://portal.ncdenr.org/c/document_library/get_file?uuid=fd6c684b-2c8e-4617-a890-551ad77cd680&groupId=235275
Current water allocations:
https://deq.nc.gov/about/divisions/water-resources/planning/basin-planning/map-page/cape-fear-river-basin-landing/jordan-lake-water-supply-allocation/jordan-lake-water-supply-allocation-current-allocations
Nutrient Scientific Advisory Board:
https://deq.nc.gov/about/divisions/water-resources/planning/nonpoint-source-management/nutrient-scientific-advisory-board
S515:
http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2013/Bills/Senate/PDF/S515v5.pdf
Harold Brubaker:
http://www.ncpolicywatch.com/2017/05/25/former-house-speaker-tried-strong-arm-deq-chemicals-jordan-lake/
Gladys Robinson:
http://www.wral.com/the-price-of-protection-who-should-pay-to-clean-jordan-lake-/12546867/
Robert Reives legislation: http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/members/reports/introducedBills.pl?nUserID=684&Chamber=H
Valerie Foushee legislation: http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/members/reports/introducedBills.pl?nUserID=383&Chamber=S
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